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Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism (npr.org)
36 points by geox 10 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 29 comments





I'd think only something like ten times that amount would deter a significant number of visitors _which is the goal_.

Obviously that's not the goal but just to add an additiional revenue stream for the city while lying the local plebs straight in the face.

That is the goal. The price increases, cost of living increases and the gentrification that is brought by tourism in certain places in Europe are so high that "tourist go home" became a common graffiti and the locals are livid.

https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/travel/2023/10/09/fed-u...

“The Brits and Germans are the worst, they make our lives hell here,” the pensioner yells, after a group of young tourists fails to move out of the way on the narrow pavement. Her insults are met with cheers from a group of elderly gentleman sitting in a nearby café.

“I spit on the scum from my balcony,” one of them says to the jeers of his friends.

The beef that the young have with tourists is more life-affecting: They get gentrified out of being able to rent or buy housing in the neighborhoods that they grew up in. Either through housing moving to become airbnbs or through rich foreigners buying out houses. The latter relates more to golden visas and digital nomads though. Ah, and yes, 'digital nomad go home' also started to appear as a graffiti as well.


And they buy those flats and don't even life in them. Disneyworldification of tourist destinations is real.

Azores.. Land of empty little houses with little burger boxes, while the natives have to life near the cargo harbor.


> while lying the local plebs straight in the face

Locals don’t pay the fee. This is aimed at the cruise ships, whose denizens tend to wander around and not purchase anything of significance.


They're lying about the goal is what I suppose they meant, and I tend to agree.

> lying about the goal is what I suppose they meant, and I tend to agree

You think a city official needed to scrounge up some funding and came up with this, a highly visible and obstructive method, instead of raising it indirectly?


No. Locals were demanding officials do something against the rampant overtourism, so they needed to act precisely in a highly visible and obstructive way.

But the main goal was of course to assure whatever they did wouldn't jeopardise tourism as the city's main revenue stream.

5€ is equivalent to a short-term parking fee and won't deter many visitors, except a few that wouldn't have been valuable to the city anyway. It won't make a dent into the actual overtourism problem.


> the main goal was of course to assure whatever they did wouldn't jeopardise tourism as the city's main revenue stream

The whole point is there are boatloads of tourists who contribute nothing to the local economy.

> 5€ is equivalent to a short-term parking fee and won't deter many visitors, except a few that wouldn't have been valuable to the city anyway

This is a lot of cruise ship visitors to Venice. I agree the rate is set too low. But that’s different from judging the primary motivation as a money grab.


Hopefully that is the goal.

yeah they could easily just say "foreign tourists pay 50euro per day" on high traffic days and call it good.

I came here to say this exact thing

I was just in Munich the other day - couldn’t even move because there were so many tourists. I think tour groups need to have a hefty fee attached.

I have this same thought whenever I'm in traffic. They need to figure out how to get all these people out of my way.

Why would anyone be a tourist in Munich? Seems utterly bizarre.

Who WOULDNT want to be a tourist at the Deutsches Museum? I once got stuck in the mining exhibit there for a week.

Are you also a fan of beer barrels from the American Revolution era?

Probably enroute to Neuschwanstein and the old town / shopping is something to do.

Unimaginable to me to be honest. Neuschwanstein is also literally a fake castle.

It was a delightful walk up hill and great views. Other people enjoy different things than you.

Looks real enough in the pics

So does the castle at Disneyland.

During a major beer event once every ten years? Sure. Maybe for a concert as well.

Architecture? Beer Putsch enthusiasts? /s

It’s a beautiful city. I’d love to go back.


Are they only charging or also restricting the number of tickets available per day?

Restricting the number of tickets is probably an effective way of handling overtourism.

Just charging would probably be only be effective in reducing the numbers of tourists if the price were much higher. And then it would, righltly, be seen as unfair to poorer tourists.


A lot cheaper than Bhutan where they were charging $65, then ~$200, and now ~$100 PER DAY!!

Still worth it, TBH

Is Bhutan that nice?

Tangentially related. Is it just my imagination, or has American tourism to Europe been increasing? Follow-up, if I wanted to find the answer to that question, where would I find. A primary source?



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